What are
contemporary applications or lessons you could apply from the work of Gorgias
in your own life?
The particular contemporary application I draw from Encomium of Helen is one related to critical thinking. Gorgias was willing
to view a commonly accepted idea from a different
perspective. Gorgias was surrounded by a unified perspective of Helen’s
relationship with Paris (Alexander); yet, he was willing to voice an alternative narrative, an
argument exonerating her. Though unpopular, his reasons were sound, or at least
as sound as the arguments condemning her.
The second contemporary application I can draw from Gorgias is to
wrestle with tensions and paradoxes, understanding that language—more than any
other vehicle—can get me close to having wisdom, but that language is also a
barrier to knowing truth. The tension between
harmony and discord can be resolved through language. As TCR-ers, we
probably all believe this in large measure; otherwise, what are we doing here?
Plato criticizes Gorgias’s emphasis on style, but it seems from the texts we
read, that Gorgias valued reason, but enjoyed the challenge and amusement of
decoration in written and oratory arts.
I like satire (everything from Jonathan Swift to John Stewart), so
maybe I read Gorgias through that lens, but it seems like his claim to be able to speak ornamentally, even persuasively, on any
subject familiar or unfamiliar isn’t as egotistical as it is accusing. Gorgias
saying, “Hey, look what I can do,” translates into, “Be careful, look what
others could be doing too.”
Aside from rhetoric, we can learn a thing or two about living long
and well from Gorgias. The MKH book suggests he lived to be 105 because he
avoided excess (except in speech). However, I like to think we could attribute his
longevity to the fact that he was
enjoying life, getting a big kick out of ruffling feathers and making waves.
That, or—since, as an itinerant, he didn’t pay taxes—he simply didn’t accept that
the whole death and taxes thing applied to him until one day… it did. I have to
think the guy was just having a damn lot of fun playing with words and poking
his finger in the eye of conformity.
Also,
share at least one useful link about Classical Rhetoric and why it's useful.
I initially thought I would offer rhetoric.byu.edu or The Stanford
Encyclopedia of Philosophy for my site because they are the two I depend on
most for getting a quick primer on vocab/concepts/philosophers, but I noticed
they’re both already on Dr. Rice’s list, so I had to go a-hunting. Sadly, I
didn’t find any sites that I would recommend above BYU’s or Standford’s that
weren’t also on Dr. Rice’s list, so the site I’ll submit is YouTube. Lame, I know! But, hear me
out. Lately, I’ve been watching everything from short animated clips to long
university lectures on rhetoric while I’m on the treadmill or stationary bike
at the gym. Jon Hoffman’s lectures
are particularly good, but even student PowerPoints sometimes surprise me.
While the content on YouTube doesn’t meet the academic standard to which most
of us are accustomed, it does put the material in an easy-to-gnaw-on vocabulary
(and, as an extra bonus, we get to actually hear
some of the words and names that are tricky to pronounce). Getting information
in multiple formats and styles reinforces the concepts and promotes memory.
Nice point--in saying that we can use rhetoric, it stands to reason, that others are using is too. Nice thinking about Hoffman on YouTube! Can you email me a link that I can put on our class site which may get people into them?
ReplyDeleteJonathan Swift to John Stewart--haha, I'm with you there.
ReplyDeleteAnd thanks for the Hoffman recommendation; they were worth watching.
ReplyDeleteI just came across this quote and I thought of you Joy. It combines the rhetoric of food with Gorgias! Who knew? :)
ReplyDelete"Polus. Then are oratory and cookery the same thing?
Socrates. Certainly not, but they are branches of the same occupation."
Plato in Gorgias 426b=466a
Thanks for this quote, Tricia. I read a quote from Aristotle a while back that I'm desperate to find again, but can't. He basically said studying the rhetoric of food would be as interesting as the rhetoric medicine (I'm paraphrasing, of course).
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